Will be getting an excavator for property maintenance. Main use will be in the woods, stumping, moving logs, trail maintenance, etc.
Secondary uses around property, pond construction & maintenance, walls, culverts etc.
Was originally headed in the mini-ex direction, but folks advised against it. Then thought maybe 8-9 ton models. But demoed them & they appeared light. I appreciate the counsel from forum members.
Am now pretty much focused on 12-15 ton machines. Will need enough power & weight to stump (I know, I know, many experienced folks believe that 20 tons is minimum bid. I also realize
that I will be digging vs pulling), but also want to keep machine small enough to get through the woods, not have to enlarge existing trails and also minimize unwanted damage. It also needs to be versatile enough to do other jobs around the place. So pretty much want to stay in an 8' 10" track width. Also want to stick with a reduced radius swing or "zero swing" machine. Reasons of maneuverability and damage, both
to trees and to the machine.
Was focused on Cat 314 & JD 135, but then started looking at other machines. Now considering Case CX 145 as well as Volvo ECR 145. All with front blades.
In looking purely at the numbers, the Volvo ECR 145D looks like a very good machine for my applications & needs/wants. It has the most hp, torque and swing torque of
any of the models in this size envelope. It is at the upper end of the total weight for similar models. These weight & power considerations will be helpful in heavier applications like stumping.
JD/Hitachi and Case, around 32,00-33,000 pounds. Cat at 35,000 to 36,000 pounds, as is Volvo.
But then Volvo has 113hp. JD & Case at 97-100hp, not surprising since it is the same Isuzu diesel. Cat, tied for the heaviest machine is at the low end of the hp range at 89.
In terms of torque, Volvo is putting out 395 ft pounds vs the next closest Case at 265. Neither Cat nor JD publish their engine torque, only their swing torque.
Again when it comes to swing torque, the Volvo is out in front at 30,912. Cat is least at 22,790. JD & Case in the 25,000 to 27,000 range.
Case also looks compelling vs the Cat & JD. Slightly beefier hydraulic in Case vs JD.
I know that specs don't tell the whole story. But in looking at the numbers, in most categories all of these machines are very close. But when it comes to weight and power, the
Volvo seems to have a slight advantage. It has the most interesting combination of weight and power in an 8'10' wide package and a reduced/zero tail swing.
What am I missing? I realize that this is "paper research" and need to try the machine, but I have to narrow the search somehow.
What are folks experience with Volvo in the 12-15 ton range? How about Case? their numbers also look quite good.
Secondary uses around property, pond construction & maintenance, walls, culverts etc.
Was originally headed in the mini-ex direction, but folks advised against it. Then thought maybe 8-9 ton models. But demoed them & they appeared light. I appreciate the counsel from forum members.
Am now pretty much focused on 12-15 ton machines. Will need enough power & weight to stump (I know, I know, many experienced folks believe that 20 tons is minimum bid. I also realize
that I will be digging vs pulling), but also want to keep machine small enough to get through the woods, not have to enlarge existing trails and also minimize unwanted damage. It also needs to be versatile enough to do other jobs around the place. So pretty much want to stay in an 8' 10" track width. Also want to stick with a reduced radius swing or "zero swing" machine. Reasons of maneuverability and damage, both
to trees and to the machine.
Was focused on Cat 314 & JD 135, but then started looking at other machines. Now considering Case CX 145 as well as Volvo ECR 145. All with front blades.
In looking purely at the numbers, the Volvo ECR 145D looks like a very good machine for my applications & needs/wants. It has the most hp, torque and swing torque of
any of the models in this size envelope. It is at the upper end of the total weight for similar models. These weight & power considerations will be helpful in heavier applications like stumping.
JD/Hitachi and Case, around 32,00-33,000 pounds. Cat at 35,000 to 36,000 pounds, as is Volvo.
But then Volvo has 113hp. JD & Case at 97-100hp, not surprising since it is the same Isuzu diesel. Cat, tied for the heaviest machine is at the low end of the hp range at 89.
In terms of torque, Volvo is putting out 395 ft pounds vs the next closest Case at 265. Neither Cat nor JD publish their engine torque, only their swing torque.
Again when it comes to swing torque, the Volvo is out in front at 30,912. Cat is least at 22,790. JD & Case in the 25,000 to 27,000 range.
Case also looks compelling vs the Cat & JD. Slightly beefier hydraulic in Case vs JD.
I know that specs don't tell the whole story. But in looking at the numbers, in most categories all of these machines are very close. But when it comes to weight and power, the
Volvo seems to have a slight advantage. It has the most interesting combination of weight and power in an 8'10' wide package and a reduced/zero tail swing.
What am I missing? I realize that this is "paper research" and need to try the machine, but I have to narrow the search somehow.
What are folks experience with Volvo in the 12-15 ton range? How about Case? their numbers also look quite good.
Excavator Advice, Part II ? Volvo ? Case?
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